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• I guess the reason most of you say that playing SMCC hurts your teams is because they're either Division 6 or 7 and your teams are in higher divisions. Okay, understood. You play bigger schools, you get more points. The thing I don't understand is, don't you have to beat them first, before you get the points? A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. SMCC is a Monroe County school. It should be playing Monroe County schools. I think there should be a rotating week, different every season, where the Monroe County schools should face off against each other. It seems that in this day and age, the schools are looking for games against schools outside of their "Home" leagues to better their playoff chances. Why not keep it close to home and create some rivalries? Did it hurt Monroe to play Riverview? Maybe afterwards.

  • You get points whether you win or lose. You get extra points if you win. In terms of bonus points.

• Im just thinking out loud. Maybe Riverview is just fine with being the biggest team in the HL. Somebody has to be the biggest.
  Winning league titles may outweigh a home playoff game or 2.

  Also, if you replaced SMCC with an 8-1 D2 team AND Flat Rock with an 7-2 D2 team, that still would have not been enough to pass
  Carlson in Playoff Points.

  • It is nice being the big dog in the league but every year they are gonna end up @Allen Park or @Carlson as long as they only lose 2, most years a DL team losing 3 games will have more points then a 9-0 Riverview depending on the open games.
    How does the math work if you add Lincoln Park, Taylor etc... instead of CC?

    • Replacing SMCC with LP(D2), who went 1-8, would have earned .778 more playoff points.

      In my last comments I stated, replacing SMCC and FR with 8-1 and 7-2 D2 teams, still would have not been enough for View to pass Carlson.

• HL and DL should just consolidate the downriver area schools and combine into one league. I've never understood why there are two leagues in that area. It would be pretty competitive for most sports, the best would still be the best and the basement would still be the basement. Heck they all basically play each other anyway because of proximity in all sports but football. For football they would need to tier the schedules to prevent all the powerhouses playing the small schools, it doesnt help their playoff points anyway ie) Woodhaven shouldnt play GI or FR but they gain Riverview and Huron.

  • They already tried that. It was called the Mega league and it seemed like a good idea on paper but didn't really work.

    • Not the same thing. The mega was a hot mess rotating schools around, all the different divisions, "forgetting" to invite certain schools etc... Like you said it was a good idea on paper but way too much about politics. Just having a downriver area league that plays just like any other league would be great. All sports would benefit from it. The travel times would be decreased and much more consistent "gas friendly" distances. The only issue is a few of the teams with football and that could be overcome by not making those teams play all the powerhouse teams each year and the big schools using an open week vs other big schools for the playoff points.

      • What you mean to say is that YOU would like it. The local coaches and athletic directors, not so much.

      • I still want someone to do a 30 for 30 documentary on the Michigan Mega Conference.

        Tagline: What if I told you that a super conference would turn into a super disaster?

        What A Mega Mess! A 30
        For 30 film, directed by Billy Corben

• Chris I heard you on the ticket this morning.

• If Riverview wants to be taken seriously, they should move to the DRL to prepare for the playoffs. They play a tough d3 playoff schedule and the Huron League isn’t preparing them. Look at playoff records before you start responding. Woodhaven need to move to a D1 league so they can play schools of the same attendance. It’s ridiculous that they get excited every year about beating schools with half their attendance.

  • I'm not sure what you mean by taken seriously. Riverview was in the Division 3 semis in 2017. That run included blowout victories over two DRL teams and a victory over Divine Child who had numerous Division 1 college football players on that team. The DRL traditionally has 3 possibly 4 good teams. The entire Huron League would have beaten Edsel, LP, Taylor and Southgate this season. Riverview playing those teams would only do one thing, earn playoff points. It does hurt Riverview playing SMCC from a point perspective, but the Falcons play very very good football. I don't see Riverview ever leaving the Huron League, but I could definitely see the expansion of the league.

    On another note, Allen Park has a nice team this season, but aren't they basically the same team that was blown out (30-14) by a 3rd place Huron Chief team last year? Obviously not the same team, but you get my point.

    • Not even close to the same team as last year. Huron played a great game last year and had a great team. I didn’t say anything bad about that team at all. That was a great win for them. But that team was loaded with seniors like AP is this year. Would have been a great game if we were both at that level at the same year.

      • Hey Gajewski. Win a regional and you can talk. Until then you're just chirping. Put it on the scoreboard.

      • And what is preparing you for MLK this Friday? Taylor? Edsel?? Southgate? LP? Trenton, cmon man!!

        • Neither would Flat Rock, Grosse Isle, and obviously not Riverview either

        • D1 is not tougher for Woodhaven than D4 is for Milan or D7 is for SMCC. That's why they have divisions. They all require you to win or go home. The idea that only the big divisions are tough is rubbish.

        • Nothing is preparing anyone in the state for king.

      • Riverview's Starting QB got hurt the game before they played AP. You don't think that might have had an effect on the game? Outcome could have still been the same but you never know.

        • No, it wouldn’t matter. Half of Riverview is blaming the weather and the field, the other half is blaming the injuries. AP had injuries too, we just don’t put them out there and use them as an excuse. AP is 5-0 in their last 5 meetings in the playoffs.

    • I wasn’t bashing Riverview. They had a good team this year. However, AP is 5-0 against them in the playoffs at AP. I think they would benefit from playing AP, Trenton, Carlson and Woodhaven yearly. That way they aren’t playing a bunch of division 5-7 teams and they would see playoff like competition throughout the year.

      • Thats what 3, maybe 4 games. And the rest cupcakes. There is no benefit to that. You just are bent on Riverview joining the Downriver league for some reason. From a preparing for the playoffs point, the Downriver league is not a great league. They might have a couple good teams, but top to bottom the Huron has been much more solid. Overall a better brand of football in the Huron. 1 regional championship by 1 team out of the downriver league going back 20 years vs 13 regionals by 4 different teams from the Huron league.

        • That’s funny. You can’t compare regional championships when AP ends up with teams like King and Woodhaven goes against teams like fordso n Belleville. I mean really, maybe Huron and Riverview compete in the DRL, but those other teams don’t. And I get the bottom 4 teams in the DRL are terrible. But the top 4 are great competition. Carlson would never drop down to the Huron League because they want better top end competition.

    • Yeah the same Allen Park team that is 6-1 vs the Huron League since 2015. Guy has picked three games involving AP this year and was wrong every time.

      • You have one good team in Allen Park. Where's the rest of the league? Nowhere to be found in the playoffs.

      • So you admit that Huron blew out AP last season? Let me guess, you have been wrong on AP twice this year. Congrats Mr Anonymous, you’re a genius!

    • Thank you Chris for the common sense. From a preparing for the playoffs perspective, a Huron League slate along with 2 quality non league opponents prepares anyone better than being in the Downriver league. The Downriver league has 3 maybe 4 decent teams in a given yea. The bottom of the league is nowhere near the caliber of the bottom of the Huron League.

• Has any of the SMCC fans heard who we are playing week 1 or week 9 next year? I have heard rumors of TCC teams ?

  • Is it true that SMCC is playing Madison or Summerfield week 1?

• With the tcc on the brink of collapse now is the time to consider options. Adrian and Tecumseh have no business in the SEC and can’t compete at all. Adding them to the Huron league would make a lot of sense. What happens to Whiteford and Summerfield when the league buckles? Lcaa won’t take them. Adrian Madison and Sand Creek could get into it. An idea could be Dundee , Ida, Erie Mason, Smcc, Whiteford, Summerfield, all smaller mid tier school in Monroe division, with Clinton, Blissfield, Hudson, Sand Creek, Adrian Madison, and Onsted making up a Lenawee division. Fun to play around with but way to many moving parts for all to agree too. I doubt any real change will come.

  • Good Idea. Also take the other southern teams from the Huron League to join. Then the northern teams from the Huron League can join the Downriver League. Riverview, Huron, Grosse Ile and Flat Rock belong there anyway.

• Just took a look at the teams in the Catholic High School League.
  It looks like a great league. Over 20 teams in it and they break up the divisions by school size. There are some teams not all that far away either.
  Teams in Ann Arbor area, Teams in southern Wayne county. I think it
  would be and excellent option for SMCC. I would be excited by that. Probably more college recruiters at those games also.
  New competition, different challenges. It would probably make them even better.
  Riverview GR has improved in recent years.
  Just some thoughts. Change is good.

• The league additions are interesting it reminds me of a league from 20 years ago the MEGA League. it was to far spread out from Monroe to Highland Park and Carlson to Ypsilanti, Can you imagine traveling from Grosse Ile to Dundee in the winter time it us bad enough going to Milan from Grosse Ile no direct route

• I don't see the Huron League expanding. Why would Dundee go to a league where they will win 2-3 league games a year? Now if the wrestling program said we want to change leagues then they might. Ida I could see it making more sense, I think they would be competitive. The real question is what happens to the remaining teams in the TCC now that 2 more teams have went to 8 man. Do they combine with the LCAA?

  • I think the small division which you have described would like to leave the league and create their own. Without SMCC.
    No offense, but playing SMCC does not benefit any of us.
    The only beneficiary is SMCC. Plus when they play neighboring schools that also help their recruiting when they win. That is why
    Monroe will not play them.
    Anyhow, Dundee, Ida, Jefferson, GI, and Flat Rock to start a new league, possibly add Summit. SMCC to join league with Riverview GR and Riverview join Downriver league.

    Still a work in progress. AD meeting is soon, hopefully something happens. With school of choice and a private school in the league,
    there is no benefit for the small public schools in the league.
    They will be struggling for years to come.

    • I would have to disagree that playing SMCC doesn't benefit us. I'm a Riverview guy going back 40 years. SMCC always brings it. You know they are ready to play. If you want to beat them, it's going to be a dogfight. That's Huron League football.

      • It does benefit you on the field, CC always has a good team and always plays hard but it doesnt help at all for playoffs. When you already basically know who your playoff opponents will be (speaking for Riverview) and you are already almost guaranteed to have less points because of playing CC it does matter.

        I do agree with the others that home/away isnt the end all be all for success but anyone that has played or coached can tell you they would much rather play at home especially if it is a long trip. The new playoff system punishes teams for playing programs like CC. Whether we agree with it or not that is how it is now.

      • That was a fair argument until this season. The new format hurts Riverview. Probably the biggest reason they didn't host a playoff game this season. I'm not hating, that is just how the numbers work.

        • A lot of posters called out Riverview for their schedule, and for not hosting a playoff game. But in the end did it really make a difference?

        • "Home field advantage" really doesn't matter much in high school football. Not nearly as much as this site wants to make it.

        • I have said numerous times on this site that home-field really doesn't matter, but it is nice to play at home.